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A Theory worth discussion: There people who just love the game of politics, for the fight, and is it equal on both sides, or IS IT?

Posted by mrfixit on July 8, 2011

On the radio Tuesday I heard a stand in host for Glenn Beck, don’t recall the name, but he was from Missouri.  He went off on a tangent about general disgust with people who play politics almost as a sport, for love of the fight, and supposed an 80% out of the game, with 10% on each side in the game.

There is a serious flaw in the development of the 10%, 10%, 80% argument.

While I would agree that there is something wrong with those that are in the political process for “love of the game”, I don’t think the argument presented this morning properly expressed this point.

If the 10% mentioned were to be exclusive to those that really don’t care about the outcome, as long as they are on the winning team, then there is a valid point to be made, but I really doubt there is any accuracy to the notion of 10% on each side, and that it is equal on both sides.

I think it is skewed to the left, where those on the left largely only care about power, and for them power comes from winning by any means.

While there are no doubt some on the “right” that would tend to fall into this trap, I don’t think they are a clear majority, and seriously less than 10% on that side.

What we have is the battle of good vs. evil.   Evil uses ANY means, good does not.  Good is restrained by moral limits imposed by
belief in a higher power and final judge.  This does not happen on the left.

To give a rare example of someone on the “right” who was in it for the “love of the game” I’d point to people like Arlen Specter, who would switch parties to hold to power, and a recently ousted Washington State GOP chair that left and began lobbying work for the enemy – SEIU.

While this does happen, it is fairly uncommon on the conservative/right end of the spectrum, but very common for the “left”.

I also take issue with the notion that those who aggressively discuss politics are somehow a problem.  If we had less discussion and more non-sense like sports and entertainment discussion, it makes it WORSE not better.

The fact it is now as bad as it is, is in large part traced to the “ignorant bliss” of much of the US population.

Many of those 10% in the Conservative movement are pulling much more than their fair share of the load trying to hold the line to provide a better future for our children than the ignorant blissful  who sit it out and waste their precious time on trivial pursuits that don’t advance the cause of liberty and prosperity over the forces of tyranny.

I think this host would do well to think about this some more, those who don’t participate and support the fighters for good, for liberty, for prosperity and LIMITED government, and do so by vigorously discussing the issues which engages many and spreads the involvement, well they ARE taking a stand by their inaction.  They are taking a stand which supports our own demise.

I’d be careful on this topic and I’d make it very clear that MORE honest political discussion is a GOOD thing, not a bad one as this host seems to have proposed.

Then there was a negative comment about commenter’s, including those at the theBlaze.com.  While some are over the top, and outrageous, most are NOT, in particular at this site.  If you want an example of hateful disgusting comments, you should use the NY Times or Huffington Post; there you’ll find more disgusting comments, mostly from the left, by any fair measure.

But even there, in perspective, MOST who bother to comment are seeking to have a dialogue and share ideas.  This is mostly good, and much better than the alternative of NOT having any discussion and debate.  Even the worst comments have value — value in revealing the worst thoughts and allowing those who hold such views and those they support to be EXPOSED for what they truly are and to remind the good and decent amongst us of what NOT to do.

I think his intention was in the right place, but the communication was ineffective and seemed to do more harm than good on this one, which might explain all the harsh e-mails he was reporting on this one discussion.

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2 Responses to “A Theory worth discussion: There people who just love the game of politics, for the fight, and is it equal on both sides, or IS IT?”

  1. Dave Dahlke said

    “But even there, in perspective, MOST who bother to comment are seeking to have a dialogue and share ideas. This is mostly good, and much better than the alternative of NOT having any discussion and debate. Even the worst comments have value — value in revealing the worst thoughts and allowing those who hold such views and those they support to be EXPOSED for what they truly are and to remind the good and decent amongst us of what NOT to do.”

    I totally agree with this. Any comment by a person lets everyone who hears or reads it know where his/her values lie. I think a lot of people on the right are actually afraid to air their comments due to either fear of negative feedback, waste of time, or fear of offending someone. Those on the left have no fear of offending anyone and know that they will have a following who will support their outrageous comments.

    • mrfixit said

      Exactly right!
      I’ve had many online debates where many who agreed on my side would only send supportive private replies and not engage, because the other side was working the usual character assault of baseless attacks. It always goes there when they are exposed of being devoid of logic and reason, they have nowhere to go but to silence the messenger, a technique as old as time, and one that tracks back to the original sin! This is why there is such a strong correlation with atheists and the left, it is not coincidence.

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